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Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

Ordinário

English translation:

Ordinary

Added to glossary by Luciano Eduardo de Oliveira
Oct 28, 2023 03:30
1 yr ago
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Portuguese term

Ordinário

Portuguese to English Other Religion
"...celebrações eucarísticas e outros serviços eclesiásticos com o consentimento do Ordinário."
É uma carta da Arquidiocese da minha cidade, informando que concorda em enviar um padre para acompanhar uma imagem de Nossa Senhora para o exterior. Acredito que "Ordinário", neste caso, se refira ao Arcebispo, que é quem está concedendo esta autorização.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +4 Ordinary
4 +4 diocesan bishop
5 Ordinary Bishop/Archbishop
4 +1 archbishop
Change log

Oct 29, 2023 05:36: Luciano Eduardo de Oliveira Created KOG entry

Discussion

Mario Freitas Oct 28, 2023:
Ordinários estão abaixo dos bispos (outros) e abades na hierarquia da igreja. Mas de fato são mesmo "ordinaries" em inglês também.
Luciano Eduardo de Oliveira Oct 28, 2023:
Arcebispos e ordinários não são a mesma coisa: https://dol-in.org/role-of-bishops-archbishops-and-cardinals...

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Proposed translations

+4
2 hrs
Selected

Ordinary

Peer comment(s):
agree Clauwolf
5 hrs
agree Oliver Simões : You nailed it.
8 hrs
agree Mario Freitas :
9 hrs
agree Antônio Souza
2 days 8 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Quite clearly defined. Found it on Michaelis too, so I'm going with it."
+1
3 hrs

archbishop

I know ordinary is correct, strictly speaking, but I would use a word that everyone will understand.
Peer comment(s):
agree Simone Taylor : Especially not to cause any confusion with the other meaning of ordinary.
38 mins
agree Paulinho Fonseca
4 hrs
agree Arthur Vasconcelos
6 hrs
disagree Oliver Simões : References, please. Not an archbishop for sure, per the reference posted by Luciano. https://dol-in.org/role-of-bishops-archbishops-and-cardinals...
7 hrs
Andy says it's the archbishop, and I have no reason to doubt his word.
neutral Adrian MM. : It's Brazil: https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/619360-nao-e-seu-bisp...
8 hrs
neutral Mario Freitas : Not the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_the_Catholic_Chur...
8 hrs
disagree Antônio Souza : Not the same concept
2 days 7 hrs
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+4
6 hrs

diocesan bishop

diocesan bishop
Peer comment(s):
agree Adrian MM. : For Brazil: https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/619360-nao-e-seu-bisp...
4 hrs
agree Oliver Simões : That's the meaning. "Ordinary" sounds like a more accurate translation, though.
5 hrs
agree Mario Freitas : Yes, this is also a correct solution.
5 hrs
agree Mark Robertson
1 day 23 hrs
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13 days

Ordinary Bishop/Archbishop

Pelas fontes que eu coloco como referência, um ordinário pode ser tanto um bispo, quanto um arcebispo. Por isso, há de haver uma pesquisa para se certificar sobre quem se trata.

Eu pesquisaria a posição do oficial da Santa Sé, para usar o termo mais correto, mas nunca usaria apenas um título, como ordinary ou bishop pois; primeiro, a categoria de ordinário abrange o ordinário simples, o ordinário coadjutor, ordinário auxiliar etc. E segundo, nem todo bispo/acrebispo é ordinário, mas todo ordinário é um bispo/arcebispo.
Example sentence:

An auxiliary bishop is appointed by the Holy Father at the request of the Ordinary to assist him in the governance of the diocese and take his place if he is absent or impede

Reference:

https://catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-the-difference-between-an-ordinary-auxiliary-and-coadjutor-bishop/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinary_(church_officer)

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