French term
une bière noire coiffée d'une mousse blanche!
1 -4 | dark ruby red beer / black stuff / dark stuff topped with white foam / froth | Andres Larsen |
2 +6 | dark beer with a rich and creamy head | Bourth |
4 -1 | a black beer topped with white foam | MARCOS SILVA |
Mar 18, 2023 20:13: Emmanuella changed "Language pair" from "English to French" to "French to English"
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Proposed translations
dark ruby red beer / black stuff / dark stuff topped with white foam / froth
https://www.guinness.com › frequ...
Look closely. Guinness Draught beer is not actually black but rather dark ruby red because of the way the ingredients are prepared. Some raw barley is roasted, ...
A Pint of the Black Stuff: What Makes Guinness Great
https://www.thatsmags.com › post
18 abr. 2019 — Concentrating on a beer for the bold with a creamy frothy head, this was the first step to the Guinness Draught that the world knows today.
The Science Behind Pouring The Perfect Pint Of Guinness
https://www.forbes.com › sites › t...
11 mar. 2016 — Is there any scientific reason why Guinness is poured in such a ... pint of clear, dark stout topped with a white, dense, creamy foam.
St. Patrick's Day 101: How To Drink Guinness Properly: The Salt
https://www.npr.org › 2016/03/17
17 mar. 2016 — Guinness is often called "the black stuff" – but the creamy, almost white foam that makes up the beer's head is also crucial to its ...
Why Is Guinness Dark And How Dark Is It Really?
https://beveragebeaver.com › why...
There's a reason that Guinness is also known as “the dark stuff”, after all. ... Guinness is an Irish stout that is brewed using malted barley, hops, yeast, ...
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Pas de quoi. Je vous en prie!
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Tony M
: In a general translation, we couldn't refer to a stout beer as 'stuff' — that has a very specific colloquial meaning in EN, to be used with caution in other contexts.
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Daryo
: "ruby red" ???? They don't do Guinness beer in your neck of the wood? Guinness beer is very dark, shiny black!
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Yvonne Gallagher
: Tony is absolutely right. It's "a dark stout with a creamy head". Officially, according to the brewery, it IS "ruby-red" but it's not usually described that way as many think it's black. Ads often use the colours black and white to describe it
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Conor McAuley
: Saying that Guinness is ruby red is like saying the sky is black only that its colour is turned blue by the dust in it!
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Anastasia Kalantzi
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AllegroTrans
: "foam" and "froth" are not the correct brewing terms at all and "ruby red" for Guinness - no way
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dark beer with a rich and creamy head
Next step, the Wiki entry for stout. Regarding the colour, the French entry refers simply to its couleur foncée. The English entry says "Stout is a dark, top-fermented beer". The only reference to the head of a stout (and they are talking generically about draught Irish stout) is to say that it has "a long-lasting head".
If we are talking about stout (generically) and not specifically about Guinness, may I observe that while the head of Guinness is — generally (but not always) — a startling bright white, the head of other stouts may tend to be more an off-white/creamy buff, even yellow/orange-y.
Personally, and unless context dictates otherwise (are we comparing stout to racial issues, for instance?), I would tend to noyer le poisson (but not in my pint!) and refer to it as a 'rich and creamy head', even if 'creamy' probably describes less the colour than the texture of the head of a stout (and the beer itself).
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Tony M
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Ta muchly.
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ormiston
: Better without the 'and' as you spontaneously said above?!
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Thanks. Probably.
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Daryo
: If you live in UK or Ireland you have all the "context" you'll ever need regarding Guinness beer: easy to find in the nearest pub!
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Thanks. I was referring to the context in which the phrase is found (assuming Asker is not translating the Wiki article).
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Yvonne Gallagher
: Yes but I would never describe Guinness, or other Irish stout, head as "bright white" but creamy in colour and taste
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Conor McAuley
: Noyer le poisson? Please explain!
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AllegroTrans
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a black beer topped with white foam
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Daryo
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Yvonne Gallagher
: "foam" is completely wrong and it's a stout
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AllegroTrans
: "foam" is not the right brewing term at all
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Discussion
It only became a worldwide business when it acquired Distiller's Company — which owned, in particular, the 'Johnnie Walker' brand
An adaptation. Guinness is "the black stuff".